Will be exploring the Dumaguete & Siquijor subcults this weekend. Posts soon...

toy camera sub cult

First pics from my miniature, smaller-than-the-palm-of-my-hand Superheadz Nico Digi Vq1005

photography sub cult

Went phototripping with some cheap filter shit that sticks on cam lenses...

fashion sub cult

Ohhh mah gahd... like this girl is like totally arte when she like speaks. Like, I want to feed her to the zombies...

unsubcultured current events thought...

Maybe North Korea is trying to make war, not love on South Korea because they really really really hate K-Pop...

canine trainers/sellers/lovers sub cult

Apparently, there's a new dog breed we don't know about...



[Shot taken in front of my friends' house in Makati. They never asked their neighbors what a FUG looks like]

napra-PRANING ako!

So tinira ng North Korea ang South.

Eh ang daming Koreano, Korean restaurant, Korean grocery, Korea town, dito sa Pinas. Hindi kaya tayo tirahin ng NoKor?

And what if Nostradamus was wrong? What if WW3 will be triggered not in the mideast but in Asia?

Praning [that's paranoid in English for all the non-Filipinos who have been dropping by my sub cult]!!!

Maybe I should stop watching post-apocalyptic movies.

geek tech sub cult

My most "fingered" [okay, tapped] apps on IPad...

[1] AWEDITORIUM
A sampling of indie music acts mostly from the US of A


[2] FRIENDLYFOR FACEBOOK

[3] NBA GAME TIME

[4] FLIPBOARD
It's like a magazine where you can flip through pageg regarding various topics - ent, tech, music etc. You can even view Facebook and Twitter like a magazine.


[5] COMIC BOOK READER
I'm reading "The Walking Dead".

some GONZALESes i like...

Speedy...



Adidas...

news and current affairs sub cult

Gretchen Fullido over Phoemela Baranda as entertainment reporter for TV Patrol?

TINATANONG PA BA YUN?

vatican + rubber industry sub cult

Sabi ni fafa, okay na daw gumamit ng condom!!!



Naku, baka mabansagan siyang ANTI-CHRIST ng ultra right wing conservative mother-effers!

zombie movie-phile sub cult

Probably one of the best damn zombie movies ever! The French filmmakers beat the living hell out of those American and Jap zombie filmmakers. Hayup ito, hayup!

atheism sub cult

Common/everyday expressions atheists can't use or else they contradict themselves ...

"Like, ohmigod!!!"

"Susmaryosep naman o!"

"Jesus H. Christ!"

"Lordy lordy lordy lordy..."

"Ang bait niya, sana kunin na siya ni Lord."

"Diyos ko po!"

"Diyos ko, 'day."

"Madre de dios"

"TGIF"

"Holy shit!"

"Gademit!"

"AMEN!"

clubbing sub cult

[random "conversation" at a club]



TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS hi TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS
TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS
TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS what?? TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS
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TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS pardon me? TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS
TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS
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TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS may yosi ka? TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS
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TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS you want a beer? TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS
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TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS wow, hot ng chicks na yun! TUGS TUGS TUGS
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TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS banyo lang ako TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS TUGS
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why i detest house music

When you go to a Chinese restaurant, what do you ask for that's free? You got it - HOUSE TEA. In order words, GENERIC tea. Tea that tastes the same in all Chinese restos. Same holds true when you order non-bottled water in any resto... you ask for HOUSE WATER. Again, GENERIC. Same shit, different place, different glass.




That's what house music is. Same shit in all clubs... even if it's a different DJ.

couch surfing sub cult

From Wikipedia:

CouchSurfing (sofa surfing in the UK) is a neologism referring to the practice of moving from one friend's house to another, sleeping in whatever spare space is available, floor or couch, generally staying a few days before moving on to the next house.

The term couchsurfing was adopted by The CouchSurfing Project in 1999 for what is now the world's largest hospitality exchange network. With over 2.2 million members in 237 countries and territories,[2] CouchSurfing is the most visited hospitality service on the Internet, averaging around 60 million daily page views in July-September 2010.

I only have one question: what if my couch surfing visitors are 2 really really hot women and they want to use my body/rape me? How do I stop them?

unsubcultured bucket list item #10

Wasted an entire roll of film because I loaded it to my Holga the wrong way. CHECK!

surfing sub cult

A 3-day convention about surfing? I wonder what they'll talk about for three days. Plus wouldn't they rather be in a real surfing beach in Elyu, Zamba, Baler or even Siargao [as opposed to a pool with... uh... non-mutha nature made waves]?



Anyway, possible topics in a 3 day surfing convention...

• What to do with jellyfish stings
• The best after surf liquor --- beer? tanduay? gin? granma?
• Which surfer is a good guitar player, who has a great bonfire singing voice?
• The physics of a "drop-in"
• How to know if the forecast on wetsand.com is wrong
• New surf terms and hand signals
• Chismis session about the local surfers/characters in every surfspot
• Watch another surf video/movie for the umpteenth time
• Study the psychology of stokedness
• The best surf shops
• The best line-up pick-up lines
• Wipe-outers Anonymous: open forum on your worse wipeouts
• How to spot a poser in every surfspot
• Debate between goofy and regular surfers
• Intellectual film discussion about the movie "Blue Crush"
• Discussion on the best food spots
• Surfers' favorite organic drugs
• Workshop on what do when there are no waves
• Bodyboarders/wakeboarders/kiteboarders/windsurfers/wakeboarders insult session

isle of lesbos sub cult

3 "mainstream" H-wood movies with the best [IMHO] g2g kissing scenes...

travel & tourism + advertising sub cult

EPIC FAIL



I bet the people who "cooked up" this LAME LAME slogan aren't from advertising or media. And if they were, they should retire soon.

holy day for muslims... holiday for us unsubcultured infidels

No work... a free day. So I took a trip to Quiapo using the new LRT line starting from Roosevelt in QC.


Some notes from the trip...

• Saw a guy wearing basketball shorts and an effin leather jacket. Pinoy talaga, extremes pumorma eh no.

• I said this before but I'll say it again... Quiapo/Chinatown is crowded, ugly, dirty, etc... and that makes the place fucking beautiful.

• Couldn't find the camera I was looking for
  

• Compared to the MRT, the view of the LRT is fuglier, with all those shanty roofs and squatters you see from Manila to Caloocan. I challenge Parkour [that's another sub cult, just google it] afficionados to run on the roofs from Abad Santos all the way to D Jose. Every shanty or brokedown building is connected anyway.
  

If you don't know this person...

then you aren't MAD...

[... and comedy/parody magazine subcultured].

ultimate frisbee sub cult

Will be missing this because I'm going to Dumaguete and Siquijor. Besides, I've retired from this subculture.

unsubcultured presents dinosaurs of the digital age

Never had one. And if I did, I'd surely lose the stylus.

beatlemania + i'll eat anything Apple sub cult

This is Apple's "big" announcement today...

The Beatles, now on Itunes



BIG EFFIN DEAL.

Don't get me wrong. I like [not love] the fab 4. In fact I have almost all their songs on my Ipod. But, all the hype with your teaser announcement about something big coming and they come up with this.

I was hoping may bagong matinding app ang Ipad... or they come out with a new Ipod or macbook... anything!

I guess the only people elated/giddy about this are my Beatle-manic friends Tey and Monday [incidentally you just made unsubcult history - ngayon lang ako naglagay ng pangalan ng kaibigan sa blog na ito].

i am definitely clubbing unsubcultured [and I want to remain this way until infinity or longer]

Monday night. No work the next day. So I went to two bars in Greenbelt.

Dillingers was full of 20/30-something yuppies. I was hanging out with friends and friends of friends and I was soooo fucking bored. Good thing an NBA replay was showing on TV so that was cool. Inevitably, I had to go to the "one-toilet-seat-only-and-no-urinal" john. It was locked. So I waited. After a few minutes, 3 GUYS WENT OUT ALL AT THE SAME TIME! So they were either fags who did a quickie threesome or cokeheads. Sniff sniff.

Next was Izakaya, a sake sushi bar which probably turned into a dancing club late at night. The place was packed. You literally had to grind ass with hot girls, not so hot girls, and even boys before you could reach the bar. The place was pumping with kids jumping and dancing. Maybe hell felt like this.

Bottom line. I'm too old for this shit. Should have just went home after work and slept. Dreaming is much more fun.

USELESS PIECE OF INFORMATION: Greenbelt underground parking stretches from gb1 all the way to 5. So if you're lazy to walk, you can just drive from 1 to 5. Maybe you can even use this to avoid Makati traffic.

numerology sub cult

NUMBER ANGST

No one knows me because no one remembers the runner up... plus why is it that when a man cheats on his wife, they always call the other woman by my name?
- "2"

Why am I the mother-effin number of the beast? How can I be evil when I'm just a number? It's those crazy conspiracy theorists and those ultra right wing religious peoples' fault. To hell with them!
- "666"

We're not dumb asses. Then how come when kids fail in school they give us out?!
- "74, 73, 72, etc."

Fuck you, terrorists!
- "9 & 11"

Why am I not on most buildings? It's just a crazy superstition, ayt!!!
- "13"

interesting find... the postsecret sub cult

My mallrat persona bought a book titled POST SECRETS at Fully Booked yesterday. Ganda ng konsepto. And since tinatamad ako to describe it in my own words, here's the Wikipedia description:

PostSecret is an ongoing community, mail-art project, created by Frank Warren, in which people mail their secrets anonymously on a homemade postcard. Select secrets are then posted on the PostSecret website, or used for PostSecret's books or museum exhibits.

The simple concept of the project was that completely anonymous people decorate a postcard and portray a secret that they had never previously revealed. No restrictions are made on the content of the secret; only that it must be completely truthful and must never have been spoken before. Entries range from admissions of sexual misconduct and criminal activity to confessions of secret desires, embarrassing habits, hopes and dreams.

The secrets are meant to be empowering both to the author and to those who read it. Frank Warren claims that the postcards are inspirational to those who read them, have healing powers for those who write them, give hope to people who identify with a stranger's secret, and create an anonymous community of acceptance.

I'm thinking of sending my version too. Check out the website: http://www.postsecret.com/

Here are samples of the postcards...

lomo sub cult

My new toy... si Holga. Isipan ko ng ibang pangalan soon. Holga sounds like a big Russian woman who is the lead henchman of a gangster who can kill you in two swift moves.

Hope you give me beautiful pics which I will post on Facebook and will get lotsa thumbs up likes.

boxing sub cult

I don't have anything to say about the Pacquiao-Margarito fight yesterday. I just think the Pacman is trending right now so it might be a good chance to draw more readers to my blog.


Well, I'm going to waste more blogspace with a few notes about the event yesterday...

• I only watched it because I wanted to test how quick my internet is at home and how effective my router is. Two thumbs up
• I also watched it because I saw my brother was desperate to watch it earlier than the pathetic GMA7/Solar free TV broadcast. I think it made his day
• The Pacman is the Philippines' best make-up/sfx artist. Totally awesome job on Margarito!
  
• UNANIMOUS DECISION goes to Jinky Pacquiao who looks totally different. Credit goes to her plastic surgeon or who ever did her. Ang galing ng pagka-gawa!
• Finally, I don't think that was Manny Pacquiao we all saw yesterday. The person who beat Margarito to a pulp in 11 rounds and actually show mercy during the 12th round was Aling Dionisia. If that was the Pacman, Margarito would have been down by the 6th round or earlier.
  

21st century literature sub cult

CHECK OUT THIS DEEP, PHILOSOPHICAL PIECE FROM ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT & POPULAR ARTISTS OF OUR TIME...

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh! Oh-oh-oooh-oh-oh! Caught in a bad romance

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh! Oh-oh-oooh-oh-oh! Caught in a bad romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah! Roma-Roma-ma-ah! Ga-ga-ooh-la-la! Want your bad romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah! Roma-Roma-ma-ah! Ga-ga-ooh-la-la! Want your bad romance

I want your ugly I want your disease I want your everything As long as it’s free
I want your love Love-love-love I want your love

I want your drama The touch of your hand I want you leather studded kiss in the scene
And I want your love Love-love-love I want your love Love-love-love I want your love

You know that I want you And you know that I need you I want a bad,your bad romance

I want your loving And I want your revenge You and me could write a bad romance
I want your loving All your love is revenge You and me could write a bad romance

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh! Oh-oh-oooh-oh-oh! Caught in a bad romance

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh! Oh-oh-oooh-oh-oh! Caught in a bad romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah! Roma-Roma-ma-ah! Ga-ga-ooh-la-la! Want your bad romance

I want your horror I want your design ‘Cause you’re a criminal As long as your mine
I want your love Love-love-love I want your love

I want your psycho Your vertical stick Want you in my room When your baby is sick
I want your love Love-love-love I want your love Love-love-love I want your love

You know that I want you And you know that I need you I want a bad,your bad romance

I want your loving And I want your revenge You and me could write a bad romance I want your loving All your love is revenge You and me could write a bad romance

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh! Oh-oh-oooh-oh-oh! Caught in a bad romance Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh!
Oh-oh-oooh-oh-oh! Caught in a bad romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah! Roma-Roma-ma-ah! Ga-ga-ooh-la-la! Want your bad romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah! Roma-Roma-ma-ah!Ga-ga-ooh-la-la! Want your bad romance

Walk walk fashion baby Work it Move that bitch crazy Walk walk fashion baby Work it
Move that bitch crazy Walk walk fashion baby Work it Move that bitch crazy Walk walk fashion baby Work it Imma Freak bitch baby

I want your love And I want your revenge I want your love I don’t wanna be friends

(The Same But In French)

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh! Oh-oh-oooh-oh-oh! Caught in a bad romance

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh! Oh-oh-oooh-oh-oh! Caught in a bad romance

I want your loving And I want your revenge You and me could write a bad romance
I want your loving and all your love is revenge You and me could write a bad romance

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh! Oh-oh-oooh-oh-oh! Caught in a bad romance

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oooh! Oh-oh-oooh-oh-oh! Caught in a bad romance

Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah!CRoma-Roma-ma-ah! Ga-ga-ooh-la-la! Want your bad romance

[PROFOUND, INTELLIGENT SHIT, RIGHT? Thanks Lady G, no wonder the world is ending]

na-senti si unsubcultured sa bidyo na ito... huhuhuhuhu...

mallrat-ing + work + pinoy alternative music sub cult

This song by Yano titled "Esem" best describes how I feel about work nowadays...

Patingin-tingin, di naman makabili
Patingin-tingin, di makapanood ng sine
Walang ibang pera, kundi pamasahe
Nakayanan ko lang, pambili ng dalawang yosi

Paamoy-amoy, di naman makakain
Busog na sa tubig
Gutom ay lilipas din
Patuloy ang laboy
Walang iisipin
Kailangang magsaya, kailangang magpahangin

Nakakainip ang ganitong buhay
Nakakainis ang ganitong buhay
Nakakainip ang ganitong buhay
Nakakainis ang ganitong buhay
(Repeat)

Gumagabi na
Ako'y uuwi na
Tapos na ang saya
Balik sa problema
At bukas ng umaga
Uulitin ko pa ba ang kahibangang ito
Sa tingin ko hindi na

Nakakainip ang ganitong buhay
Nakakainis ang ganitong buhay
Nakakainip ang ganitong buhay
Nakakainis ang ganitong buhay

Nakakabaliw ang ganitong buhay
Di nakakaaliw ang ganitong buhay
Nakakabaliw ang ganitong buhay
Di nakakaaliw ang ganitong buhay

No... no no no

street entertainment + panhandling/mendicancy sub cult

Street kids are getting creative nowadays. Now some of them don't ask money from you straight out. Now they've added entertainment value to their begging by bringing in makeshift drums and playing it at the back entrance of jeepneys.



I just see it while driving so I really don't know if they irritate or entertain the passengers.



Today, it's drums. Someday someone will play a guitar. What if someone decides to bring in a piano? Or what if they decide to form a 5 man begging band?